There is the kind of laziness that we commonly use to describe a languid Sunday afternoon. This is not the kind of laziness that our guest is talking about here. Devon Price offers science-based reassurances that productivity does not determine a person’s worth. Price describes being lazy as a self-protection that serves us in many beneficial ways. When someone fails to do something, Price says, “I might disagree with somebody else’s priorities but if they don’t care about doing something that doesn’t matter to them, that’s pretty rational. So, we can’t really call that laziness.” They give examples of the “laziness lie” that includes many of the barriers we have to deal with in meeting our goals and laziness is not one of them.