All of us experience loss. It could be loss of a spouse, a child, our job, our home, a beloved pet, or a dear friend. During the pandemic of 2020 & 2021 we are experiencing a collective mourning of hundreds of thousands who have died from the coronavirus. This is a loss on a global scale. Every person has their own timing when it comes to grieving and our guest suggests that grief is a sign of deep love rather than a problem to be solved. The landscape of grief can be unspeakably difficult. Claire Willis recommends that we allow ourselves to remain in the great brokenness of loss with our eyes and hearts open—thus grief can be seen as an invitation to grow and eventually can lead to finding meaning in the experience of loss. This dialogue explores various practices that will illumine our broken hearts.